the feeling that you're never good enough.
the feeling that you're wicked and evil.. .
because i'd give anything not to feel this way.
Totally went away, but I was in only for only a few years and grudgingly at best as I thought they had truth. The way a single man outsider such as myself is related to is not on the same level as a born in. Will always be second class, and besides just thinking about the blatant manipulation is enough to make my blood boil.
Mind you I spent most of my online time this summer researching and deprogramming myself. Must me multiple times harder for a born in where JW thinking is entrenched.
there were many addressed to me.
for example, i once had a sister tell me i was gambling because i liked playing skill crane (the machine where you have to try to pick up prizes like stuffed animals) at the arcade.
i then fired back a her: "you saw the r-rated movie 'backdraft.
I have an account there. I started it when I began to feel myself slipping spiritually and just couldnt stomach the local devious elders. I thought maybe if I broadened my viewpoint it would help me.
I started a membership here too.
Guess which one helped me?
The folks over there didnt ring true to me. I think they are all striving to "chin up" to the perceived tone.
Basically they are all trying to out spiritual one another. Im sure some there know that and are unsatisfied but dont know what to do.
LOL Millie yeah I was like that too at one point , peer pressure to conform and be accepted
http://www.jw-archive.org/post/128775480828/frederick-w-franz-and-september-5-1975#disqus_thread
Hehehe Crazy Freddie !
jws apply the fulfillment of what jesus fold in mathew 13:24-30 in what they call the great apostasy of christendom.
here jesus was speaking in parable, hence application should be made in its essence.
jesus sowed the seed (which means he preached the truth), later when it was compiled, selfish writers sowed weeds (interpolated their own ideas), and it became one book where on cannot distinguish what is good seed and weed.
Look up Arne Jordly's Koine Greek to English translations with commentaries. I don't agree with everything 100% but it's worthwhile reading and very educational. He typically compares NWT NIV KJ to his own as well as the original Koine Greek works used. I think he relied on Strong's works to a degree to put all this together, quite impressive !
http://www.churchofgodandchrist.com/
His publications are a good starting point for me to further my Bible knowledge. I have his complete collection on order from the printers in NJ and he is pleasant to deal with. Has spent 25 years on this project so far and is not a sect or anything, his intentions are simply to help people get a better grasp of scripture without any organizational slant or agenda.
today is the day.. i was baptized as one of jehovah's witnesses on march 25th 1989.disfellowshipped for admitted apostasy today, september 10th 2015.. what an amazing story we all share.
how did we get involved with this group and think this was the best way of life?.
i asked my wife to stay home from the meeting tonight and spend the evening with me.she is.... we celebrated our 19th wedding anniversary this past monday.. i must admit, i never saw any of this coming, but it couldn't have come sooner.i'm free of all the fake friendships.
Here's my leaving the Org theme song. I found out about Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, Crazy Freddie, the way they treated Bethelites, GB1, GB2 and the current state of affairs in NY and Warwick. Thanks Uncle Raymond love you brother :
new here... been lurking for some time now.... i still serve... but with each passing day, it gets harder and harder.
i'm slowly... slowly working on my wife (i call her mrs. hardcore) and even my m-i-l (who taught my wife how to be hardcore).
making some amazing progress... they are still hardcore... but unrecognizable from a couple years ago!.
when i hear people say that you can't keep your jw friends when you leave i can understand why they say that.
however, i can also see how that is a generalization.
i remember my life growing up as a jw and having good friends who were jewish and catholic and protestant and buddhist and hindu and muslim and atheists.
allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.
i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.
some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).
Babygirl Bro. Jeramy is long gone, he hasn't posted in months..
Wanted to add what I regret is in investing in conditional JW friendships, I should of known better.
Big waste of time and was unnecessary drama and stress, completely futile.
allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.
i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.
some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).
Totally agree Stirred :
It's a journey. Keep all the loving, supportive, ethical principles and question /distance yourself from those that cause harm, destruction, pain. There are other ways to be "in service". My family is more involved with charities now and meeting many wonderful people.....
Tried to go back over the summer, ended up making me ill at the RC assembly then a last ditch effort at supper with an elder friend couple and decided it was over. Went to an SDA church the week after and saw the problems there as well.
Then all the recent things like the March 15 WT, the RC, reading COC ISOCF and COaC plus reading up on Arne Jordly site and ordering his commentaries I no longer have any use for the GB. I guess I had to wean off gradually. Last time I spoke with Bro.Jeramy he wasthinking of DA'ing and going to an orthodox church with some friends.
